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Is Novus Ordo Seclorum a latin word?

What is the meaning of this word?…does it mean new world order? im reading a book by Dan Brown called Angels and Demons and though i am not done the book yet and some of the story is made up but there are some real facts in the book. the book says that the word means new world order however the person who thought of it told Franklin D. Roosevelt that it meant new deal and he never questioned the guy because it was his best friend. what is a mason? can anyone who hasn’t read the book tell me info. on them two subjects and illuminati? i want to know real life facts not just what the book says.i want to know if there is a connection.

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john s

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It was not FDR, but Henry Wallace, Sect. of Agr., in the first Roosevelt Adm. and Vice Pres In the Second who was supposed to have been dupped by the interpretation. He was dropped in the 1944 election in favor of Harry Truman because he was felt to be too far to the left.

An interesting man, Wallace was an idealist and an out and out mystic, very much into all manner or mystic symbolism, he had mystic names in his dairies for people. FDR was “The Flaming One,” as I recall. FDR was well educated and like most men of his time would have known enough Latin to readily decipher so simple a phrase.

The symbolism of the pyramid and ocula etc had been around for a long time. but was said that Wallace had some objection until they convinced him that the phrase was Latin for “New Deal,” and in is naivete, he is supposed to have bought it.

The yarn is repeated by J.M. Burns’ and several other Roosevelt biographers. I frankly think it is apocryphal. Being a mystic is by no means the equivalent of being uninformed or unintelligent. Anyone who believes the universe was created in 6 days by “Intelligent Design,” is in a far less respectable intellectual position.

Wallace was an advanced “Liberal” and therefore the subject of a lot of ridicule by more tough-minded realists then and later. He was especially damned and belittled for his conviction that a nuclear (“nucular” in Bushese) war with Russia could best be avoided by recognizing the paranooid Soviet mentality under Stalin, but approaching them with reassuring diplomatic initiatives that might make it less necessary for them to be prepared for invasion. Sort of a Bismarckian solution of making yourself safe from your enemies by binding them to you. It worked for Otto.

Henry Wallace ran for president as an Independent in 1948, and got a lot of laughs but pitifully few votes. There was much wisdom in some of his thinking, but idealistic, soft men seldom achieve much in politics. Jimmy Carter?

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Crumbling Beauty
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Novus Ordo Seclorum = “New Order of the Ages”

It is often mistranslated as “New World Order,” but the Latin phrase for that is Novus Ordo Mundi.

The motto Novus Ordo Seclorum can be translated as “A new order of the ages.” It was proposed by Charles Thomson, the Latin expert who was involved in the design of the Great Seal of the United States, to signify “the beginning of the new American Era” as of the date of the Declaration of Independence.

It was also referred to in Dan Brown’s book Angels and Demons when the hero (Robert Langdon), a scholarly expert on the Illuminati, was trying to convince a skeptical character of the reality of the secret organization’s power by pointing to supposed Illuminati symbology on United States currency. The scholar mistranslates the phrase to “New Secular Order”, with no indication that it is a mistranslation in the story.

The Illuminati is the name used for several groups, both real and fictitious. For non-conspiracy theorists, it refers specifically to the Bavarian Illuminati, an “Enlightenment” secret society founded in the late eighteenth century. However, in modern times it refers to a purported shadowy conspiratorial organization which is reputed to secretly control world affairs, usually thought to be a modern incarnation or continuation of the Bavarian Illuminati.

The scary stuff is plain enough to see, so unless they grow horns and tails when they gather together in secret. . . . It’s no big secret that the powers that be are in favor of globalization.

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joshcrime
It is Latin, and it means “New Order of the Ages”. It’s been interpreted to mean the New World Order, which is something the Illuminati was supposed to bring in (that is, the Adam Weishaupt version of it).

If you want to know something about all of this stuff that Dan Brown writes about, you have to do a fair amount of digging. One book I can recommend is a History of Secret Societies by Akron Daraul (or something like that anyway). There are lots of books also about the Masons.

You really, really, REALLY have to look at who is writing the book and see if they have an axe to grind before you believe everything they tell you. For instance, most anti-Masonic books are either written by Catholic clergy (or lay people) or other people of a religious bent.

Remember, the goal of the Weishaupt Illuminati was the complete destruction of religion and monarchy in politics. These entities held a lot of temporal power in the 1700’s when Weishaupt was alive, and they were also pretty corrupt in a lot of ways.

Certainly you would have to admit that, if nothing else, they were not very consistent. At their worst, you have the Inquisition.

The Illuminated Seers of Bavaria were reported to have wanted to keep the ability for the church and the monarchies of Europe (very inseperable for most of history until the Protestant Reformation and the formation of the Church of England) from creating mass hysteria in the population (which they largely did for political and economic reasons, anything but religious ones) and allowing something like the Inquisition or anything like it to occur again. The methods for doing it were rooted in the Age of Reason.

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spphat
http://www.greatseal.com/mottoes/seclorum.html
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