Your opinion please? Did I over react?
My son has a habit of ignoring the handing in of homework so I have been asking him every day if he had any. His response “no not yet because some of the kids don’t have their books yet”. Excuse me, no books yet and it’s the end of the 2nd week of school? What happened to you need the book on the first day?
I called the school and the lady was also upset and said she would check into it with the principal and teacher. It wasn’t fair for those who paid. If these kids don’t have their books by a certain date, they will not pass the course. I say that’s the way it should be? How about you?
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I think you’re on solid ground to be upset if the teacher is the one setting the policy, then the teacher is ignoring his/her own policy, and the students without the book just can’t be bothered to follow the rules. If that’s the situation, then things need shaking up since the problem is one of bad or inconsistent behavior that can be corrected.
However, if the teacher is saying that the students must have the books, but the administrators are saying “You can’t assign homework until every student has a book,” and some students lacking the book are still trying to come up with $30, then the situation is irritating and needs to be addressed, but it’s not as obviously a case of bad behavior that can easily be corrected. In that case, no one’s in the wrong, and it’s just a difficult situation that has to be worked around somehow.
In any case, I don’t think that it’s ever over-reacting to say, “Hey, this aspect of my child’s education seems broken, and I think it should be fixed!” The question is not whether you should make the phone call, but how cranky and irritated you should be. Incompetence calls for some crankiness to shake things up. A bad situation without easy solutions requires more tact. In any case, probably nothing is the fault of the person who answers the phone!
My other thought is that summer school is usually where a lot of students go who did not pass required courses during the year due to lack of effort, no accountability, family issues, socioeconomic reasons, etc. My experience is that it is usually lack of effort and caring, but I am certainly not making a judgment on your son because I do not know the whole situation, but the fact that you mentioned he has a problem turning in his homework made me think this may have something to do with having to take a summer school class in the first place.
Now, imagine a class filled with students who failed that same class the year prior who also had difficulty keeping up with the basics of class curriculum like turning in homework, showing up on time to class, bringing necessary supplies to class, showing up to class at all, and/or behaving appropriately in the classroom. The chance that these students will somehow magically become responsible from the time school lets out for the year and the time summer school begins is pretty low. You have a class full of irresponsible teens and that is very, very difficult to manage for a teacher. Now if they are there to get ahead that is a different story altogether. But if they are there to make up a class that they failed, just imagine what it is like for an instructor to have to meet the needs of all those students in such a short amount of time. Have you ever been in a room with thirty kids who absolutely do not want to be there? Yikes. Are parents also responsible for their children? Absolutely. But I have witnessed plenty of caring parents with no discipline skills whatsoever. I have also seen parents who discipline but can’t seem to help their child.
The other point is that you paid money for the class, and chances are high that in order to even offer the class in the first place the school has to have a certain number of students enrolled to continue the class. Go below that number the first two weeks of school and many schools can cancel the class due to low enrollment. Chances are the school would rather keep as many kids in the class to avoid all the headache that goes along with dropping it.
Education in many ways is a BUSINESS. And unfortunately, making enrollment quotas is more important than the actual quality of education. Just my thoughts.
I went to one and I work for one. Things are done differently at community colleges. No one has the book on the first day. (I do, I’m a nerd) and they college or the dean may have requirements that the professor has the right to waive because of how he/she will be running his/her classroom. That’s just what happens when you’re a professor, you take liberties like that. I know, it’s an adjustment, and when you’re used to parenting a child that’s in highschool, it’s just hard.
But I’ve bought books for classes before just to have the professor say “I don’t think we’re actually going to use that” . It’s not courteous, but it’s common practice.
Also, homework is handled differently in a community college classroom, depending on the instructor. Most of my classes didn’t really have “homework” per se, we had two papers a semester, and perhaps a prospectus to turn in, or a presentation, but not really homework. SOME classes DO have homework though.
These kids who didn’t buy their books are probably used to professors saying “we’re not going to use this” and they’re covering their bases. I know it sucks, but they might be working their own way through college and they’re trying not to pay more than they have to. You would have done the same thing.
i think you’ll find it can help.